1.7.2 Logical rules - time condition

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robert
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1.7.2 Logical rules - time condition

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Hi,

I'm trying to get Razberry Automation version 1.7.2 to switch on the light @ 2100 and turned it off @ 0600 the next day.
Somehow, I can't get the Logical rules to work using the time condition.

Two rules logical rules were defined:
  1. When time >= 06:00 and time < 06:30, action to set switch off
  2. When time >= 21:00, action to set switch on
It's now 21:15 and the switch is still off.

So I removed the first rule and keep only the second to play with the time condition.

While writing this post, I was thinking about the fact that the Razberry runs in UTC time. Although the expert GUI shows UTC+2, I'm wondering which times to use. So I edited the automation and set UTC time to 19:22 without luck.

The Logical rules does seem to work when connected to a multilevel condition instead of time.
How does this time condition work?

Thanks,
Robert

robert
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Re: 1.7.2 Logical rules - time condition

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Just thinking: could it be that multilevel condition triggers the Logical rules automation whereas the time condition won't trigger it, but can only be used for checking against the current time?

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Re: 1.7.2 Logical rules - time condition

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I have the same results when I try a single rule where the condition is time >= 10:00 on which a binary switch should be turned on. Nothing hapening on present time or UTC. Tried with both or/and
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robert
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Re: 1.7.2 Logical rules - time condition

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OK, so it probably just won't work..

In this thread (viewtopic.php?f=3422&t=20600#p52098), I read about a Cron module.
It isn't visible through the GUI. So, I went to the folder and it does seem to be there.
Not user-friendly, but maybe this module can be used?

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robert wrote:OK, so it probably just won't work..

In this thread (viewtopic.php?f=3422&t=20600#p52098), I read about a Cron module.
It isn't visible through the GUI. So, I went to the folder and it does seem to be there.
Not user-friendly, but maybe this module can be used?
Yes that post mentions that if you are WRITING a module you can access the Cron module. An end user 'scheduled scene' module has just been added to the code repository 4 days ago.

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n0ahg wrote:An end user 'scheduled scene' module has just been added to the code repository 4 days ago.
I will have a look at that as an alternative, which at first glance seems a usefull addition.

Yet it does not solve the fundamental problem in the logical rule module provided by the RaZberry team.
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robert
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n0ahg wrote:An end user 'scheduled scene' module has just been added to the code repository 4 days ago.
Sweet! :D

I had a look at the LogicalRules module's code and indeed it looks like it currently is only able to check against a date i.e. not triggered by date/time.

Is this new scheduled scene module compatible with 1.7.2?
Should it be copied to modules or to userModules?

Is this the location of the repo?
https://github.com/Z-Wave-Me/home-automation

Which branch would be the best one to use?
I found the ScheduledScene in feature/overlay and in develop.

So many questions... :)

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Re: 1.7.2 Logical rules - time condition

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Logical rules doesn't recognize crossing the midnight hour, 23:59 to 00:00. In order to accomplish what you need to do is to setup two separate rules. One ending at 23:59 and then the second beginning at 00:00.

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Re: 1.7.2 Logical rules - time condition

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robert wrote:
n0ahg wrote:An end user 'scheduled scene' module has just been added to the code repository 4 days ago.
Sweet! :D

I had a look at the LogicalRules module's code and indeed it looks like it currently is only able to check against a date i.e. not triggered by date/time.

Is this new scheduled scene module compatible with 1.7.2?
Should it be copied to modules or to userModules?

Is this the location of the repo?
https://github.com/Z-Wave-Me/home-automation

Which branch would be the best one to use?
I found the ScheduledScene in feature/overlay and in develop.

So many questions... :)
Yes that is the correct repository and use the 'develop' branch. You might be able to just grab the ScheduledScene module and dump it in to 1.7.2 but I haven't tried doing that.

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