New Eurotronic Radiator Thermostat

[remoticz]

Any one who has seen this one? Hope it has upgradeable firmware, since there are too many flawed Z-Wave devices around

[michap]

Hi,

yes, we have tested. Mixed "feelings" ...

Seems not to be very stable - one of them canceled reporting after some hours - wthout any Z-Wave message.
deep deep sleep..... Must be woken up using micro switch.

SetPoint can be set - but manual setpoint setting at device will not be reported to gateway ! - this is important...
The manual setpoint will overwrite the Gateway setpoint for 2 hours - without notification.

The valve value will not be reported in standard mode (in manual is written, that can be read)

And - not sure about Z-Wave certification. Not listed at Z-Wave, not at Perpper1 - and no Z-Wave logo at the device/manual/box.

Eurotronics support did not answer to our questions in this time...

So... not sure in this time... a good one or not.
Last 3 days (after multiple tests and reset/reinclude) two devices are working stable....

Michael

[remoticz]

Depressing no one can build a reliable TRV....

[PoltoS]

Note that this TRV is fully based on Z-Wave part of previous Stella Z model. So, they share same firmwares. This means no need for certification (still same Z-Wave functionality). On the other side, this is a problem, since old one had no Association group to do unsolicited reports. With a wheel allowing to change locally this is now a problem.

[pz1]

Hmmm, awkward situation. Reading specifications never was easy for curstomers, but this one was not something I would expect as a customer.
May I assume the wheel setting can be overruled by the next Z-Wave temperature setting?

[michap]

May I assume the wheel setting can be overruled by the next Z-Wave temperature setting?

Yes, written in manual that it is working, and just tested again, value will be overwritten if you change the value in Z-Way.

Michael

[michap]

today again.... strange issue.
Configuration: Z-Way rc17 / Razberry + Eurotronic, nothing else.

Was reporting fine all the time, then (full z-way log):
No values more between 10:10 and 11:01, and after 11:16 ....

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[2015-11-30 10:00:00.380] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:00:00.381] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:02:00.793] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:02:00.794] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:04:00.198] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:04:00.198] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:06:00.594] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:06:00.594] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:08:00.013] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:08:00.013] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:10:00.414] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:10:00.414] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.164] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 08 00 04 00 02 02 84 07 70 )
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.164] [D] [zway] SENT ACK
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.164] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastReceived = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.164] [I] [zway] Node 2:0 CC Wakeup: Wakeup notification
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.164] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.132.data.lastWakeup = 1448874608 (0x565c1270)
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.165] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.isAwake = True
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.165] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastSend = 24015691 (0x016e734b)
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.165] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastNonceGet = 24014691 (0x016e6f63)
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.165] [D] [zway] Running wakeup handler for node 2
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.165] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.132.data.lastSleep = 1448874608 (0x565c1270)
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.165] [I] [zway] Node 2:0 CC Wakeup: Send node to sleep
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.165] [I] [zway] Adding job: Wakeup Sleep
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.235] [D] [zway] SENDING (cb 0x41): ( 01 09 00 13 02 02 31 04 05 41 94 )
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.237] [D] [zway] RECEIVED ACK
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.240] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 04 01 13 01 E8 )
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.240] [D] [zway] SENT ACK
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.240] [D] [zway] Delivered to Z-Wave stack
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.533] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 05 00 13 41 01 A9 )
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.533] [D] [zway] SENT ACK
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.533] [I] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): Not delivered to recipient
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.534] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastPacketInfo.delivered = False
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.534] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastPacketInfo.packetLength = 5 (0x00000005)
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.534] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastPacketInfo.deliveryTime = 293 (0x00000125)
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.534] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastPacketInfo = **********
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.534] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.isAwake = False
[2015-11-30 10:10:08.534] [D] [zway] Sending the queue for node 2 into sleep
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.451] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 0C 00 04 00 02 06 31 05 01 22 00 8C 68 )
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.451] [D] [zway] SENT ACK
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.451] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastReceived = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.451] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.deviceScale = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.453] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.scaleString = "°C"
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.453] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.453] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1 = Empty
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.461] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 0C 00 04 00 02 06 31 05 01 22 00 8C 68 )
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.462] [D] [zway] SENT ACK
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.462] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastReceived = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.462] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.deviceScale = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.463] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.scaleString = "°C"
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.464] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.464] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1 = Empty
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.481] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 0C 00 04 00 02 06 31 05 01 22 00 8C 68 )
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.482] [D] [zway] SENT ACK
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.482] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastReceived = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.482] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.deviceScale = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.483] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.scaleString = "°C"
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.483] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.484] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1 = Empty
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.491] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 0C 00 04 00 02 06 31 05 01 22 00 8C 68 )
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.491] [D] [zway] SENT ACK
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.491] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.data.lastReceived = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.491] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.deviceScale = 0 (0x00000000)
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.493] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.scaleString = "°C"
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.493] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.493] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1 = Empty
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.502] [I] [core] Notification: device-info (device-temperature): {"dev":"Eurotronic Technology Temperature (2.0.49.1)","l":"14 °C"}
[2015-11-30 10:14:00.230] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:14:00.230] [I] [zway] Job 0x13 (Wakeup Sleep): Cancelling job: Wakeup Sleep
[2015-11-30 10:14:00.230] [I] [zway] Removing job: Wakeup Sleep
[2015-11-30 10:14:00.230] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:14:20.375] [D] [zway] Job 0x13: deleted from queue
[2015-11-30 10:16:00.647] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:16:00.648] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:18:00.080] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:18:00.081] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:20:00.531] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:20:00.531] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:22:00.937] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:22:00.938] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:24:00.353] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:24:00.354] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:26:00.773] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:26:00.774] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:28:00.194] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:28:00.195] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:30:00.604] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:30:00.605] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:32:00.014] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:32:00.014] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:34:00.446] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:34:00.447] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:36:00.858] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:36:00.858] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:38:00.265] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:38:00.265] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:40:00.680] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:40:00.681] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:42:00.082] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:42:00.082] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:44:00.501] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:44:00.502] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:46:00.932] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:46:00.933] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:48:00.349] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:48:00.350] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:50:00.763] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:50:00.764] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:52:00.176] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:52:00.177] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:54:00.601] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:54:00.601] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:56:00.004] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:56:00.005] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate
[2015-11-30 10:58:00.445] [I] [core] ---  ZWayVDev_zway_2-0-49-1 performCommand processing: {"0":"update"}
[2015-11-30 10:58:00.446] [D] [zway] Job 0x13 (SensorMultilevel V1-4 Get): removing duplicate

before - and after (now is 12:10) (show only values here):

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[2015-11-30 07:48:24.976] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 18.500000
[2015-11-30 07:53:26.211] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 18.000000
[2015-11-30 07:58:27.483] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 17.000000
[2015-11-30 08:04:28.133] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 16.500000
[2015-11-30 08:09:29.343] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 16.000000
[2015-11-30 08:14:30.534] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 15.500000
[2015-11-30 08:19:31.916] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 15.500000
[2015-11-30 08:24:33.445] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.500000
[2015-11-30 08:29:34.805] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.500000
[2015-11-30 08:34:36.096] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 08:39:37.397] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 12.500000
[2015-11-30 08:44:38.347] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 12.000000
[2015-11-30 08:49:39.638] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 08:54:40.865] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 08:59:42.175] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 09:04:43.535] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 10.500000
[2015-11-30 09:09:44.717] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 09:14:46.041] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 09:19:47.173] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 09:24:48.482] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 09:29:49.813] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 09:34:51.291] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.000000
[2015-11-30 09:39:52.440] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.500000
[2015-11-30 09:44:53.601] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.500000
[2015-11-30 09:49:54.831] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.500000
[2015-11-30 09:54:56.055] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 11.500000
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.453] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.464] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.483] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 10:10:12.493] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 14.000000
[2015-11-30 11:01:11.050] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 17.500000
[2015-11-30 11:16:52.347] [D] [zway] SETDATA devices.2.instances.0.commandClasses.49.data.1.val = 18.000000

So ... summary... not stable.
Drops here in reporting, or in communication....

BTW - for testing the distance between Razberry and Thermostat is 3 meters only....

Michael

[PoltoS]

Have you filtered second log? If not, it can not be true - values can not change without a RECEIVED command unless you explicitelly use API to change that value.

[michap]

no, I haven't filtered.

I already think that the Z-Wave chip have any problem.
Yesterday there was a big "nothing" ... today in the morning the thermostat began to send again....

Michael

[PoltoS]

Michael, changes of dataholders withou RECEIVED are possible only via API. So, it comes not from Z-Wave network