How to create Device Specification for Qubino ZMNHDD1 ?

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geirgp
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How to create Device Specification for Qubino ZMNHDD1 ?

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I've included the Qubino ZMNHDD1 (flush dimmer) and selected "Qubino Flush Dimmer" (or something to that effect, cannot remember exactly and I'm not home now) - device on the "Interview" page. It was the best match I could find, but it is either wrong or misses a few details - the associations tab (expert view) shows nothing, while this device has a number of association options.

I googled the device and found that someone has created a config file for ZMNHDD1 to use with OpenZwave https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... h1TU-PiTHU. It contains the association details which are:

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	<!-- Association Groups -->
	<CommandClass id="133">
		<Associations num_groups="11">
			<Group index="1" max_associations="1" label="Lifeline group" auto="true"/>
			<Group index="2" max_associations="16" label="Basic on/off input I1"/>
			<Group index="3" max_associations="16" label="Multilevel set Flush dimmer"/>
			<Group index="4" max_associations="16" label="Start level change/stop level change input I1"/>
			<Group index="5" max_associations="16" label="Basic on/off input I2"/>
			<Group index="6" max_associations="16" label="Notification report input I2"/>
			<Group index="7" max_associations="16" label="Binary sensor input I2"/>
			<Group index="8" max_associations="16" label="Basic on/off input I3"/>
			<Group index="9" max_associations="16" label="Notification report input I3"/>
			<Group index="10" max_associations="16" label="Binary sensor input I3"/>
			<Group index="11" max_associations="16" label="Multilevel sensor report temp sensor"/>
		</Associations>
	</CommandClass>
How can I based on this OpenZwave config file create a custom device specification that works with Z-Way?
pz1
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Re: How to create Device Specification for Qubino ZMNHDD1 ?

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Despite several requests on this forum and at least one per email from me, Qubino so far refused to respond to requests for publishing their devices on Pepper1. They were bold enough to advertise their products on this forum though :shock:
geirgp
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Re: How to create Device Specification for Qubino ZMNHDD1 ?

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pz1 wrote:Despite several requests on this forum and at least one per email from me, Qubino so far refused to respond to requests for publishing their devices on Pepper1. They were bold enough to advertise their products on this forum though :shock:
That explains why I couldn't find it on the pepper1 db (cause I looked), however it makes no sense to me why they refuse to contribute to this database. There should be no IP-issue and by not doing it they make these devices more difficult to use with certain controllers. :twisted:

I found the ZDDX folder in /opt/z-way-server and will try to create a file for this device.
pz1
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Re: How to create Device Specification for Qubino ZMNHDD1 ?

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The ZDDX folder also does contain a schema file z-wave_v2.xsd, which you can use to check that your XML will be correct.
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PoltoS
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Re: How to create Device Specification for Qubino ZMNHDD1 ?

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There is a button in Expert UI to create the ZDDX file. Then you need to fill it with data from the manual and place in ZDDX/ folder. Once you are done, send it to us.
geirgp
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Re: How to create Device Specification for Qubino ZMNHDD1 ?

Post by geirgp »

Thanks,

I'll do that, if I get it working...

My major issue is associations. While the documentation shows a number of them, I get nothing on the "Associations" tab. Just the "Update from device" button and the legend. This happens regardless of which device description I have selected for the qubino devices, but associations for other devices (e.g. my "Multireg Z-Wave electronic thermostat with 4 functions") actually seem to work, even with incorrect Device description. If i select the Qubino dimmer specification for the thermostat, it still shows 2 association groups for that termostat, but the association "text" from the dimmer.

That makes me wonder if the ZDDX file is really just necessary to get configuration options, and correct description on Association groups (yet not required for the association groups to show up)?

If so, why don't I have any association options for my Qubino devices?

EDIT:
Interview is not fully complete. Missing 3x "Alarm" cc (Instances 0,2,3) and 3x "Version" cc (instances 1,2,3), but all other cc's are ok: Basic, SwitchBinary, SwitchAll, SensorBinary, Meter, AssociationGroupInformation, DeviceResetLocally, ZWavePlusInfo, MultiChannel, Configuration, Alarm, ManufacturerSpecific, PowerLevel, Association, Version, MultiChannelAssociation, Basic, SwitchBinary, SwitchAll, AssociationGroupInformation, ZWavePlusInfo, Association, Version, MultiChannelAssociation, Basic, SensorBinary, AssociationGroupInformation, ZWavePlusInfo, Alarm, Association, Version, MultiChannelAssociation, Basic, SensorBinary, AssociationGroupInformation, ZWavePlusInfo, Alarm, Association, Version, MultiChannelAssociation,

Same problem with alarm/version cc on all 4 devices, so this is either a bug with the devices or with z-way.

When I click "Update from device" (on associations page) i can see in the z-way log that the devices reports association groups : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8886ec91529b8bda5e67)

And for the record, this is what the zddx generator produces: https://gist.github.com/geirgp/991a844cd318c74e2c70
Last edited by geirgp on 07 Dec 2015 03:20, edited 4 times in total.
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